I’ve always been amazed that a woman finds Geordi’s holographic sex doll and somehow, at the end of the scene, he’s the one who yells at her like he has the moral high ground

[ad_1]

I’ve always been amazed that a woman finds Geordi’s holographic sex doll and somehow, at the end of the scene, he’s the one who yells at her like he has the moral high ground

31 thoughts on “I’ve always been amazed that a woman finds Geordi’s holographic sex doll and somehow, at the end of the scene, he’s the one who yells at her like he has the moral high ground

  1. [deleted] says:

    In Geordi’s defence – not to say he didn’t gaslight her – but that hologram was generated by the ship and *she* came on to *him*. His mistake was not deleting her when the need for the program was done.

    He clearly hadn’t gone back since the initial boot-up. She was still exatly where he left her when OG Leah found her. So he never really did used the hologram for anything unethical.

    OG Leah understandably assumes the worst but instead of being honest with her and coming clean about how he feels, he makes her feel bad for her reaction. This is the problem, not the existence of the program in the first place.

  2. WorfSucks says:

    Geordi learns that she is coming to the ship. Immediately he is creepy and inappropriate acting much more familiar with the real life version than he should. She is a little weirded out eventually consents to dinner with him after he convinces her to.

    At dinner she is clearly uncomfortable as he continues to push and be weird. All this time despite knowing a lot about her and making a weird hologram of her he does not know that she is married. When he finds out he gets awkward and seems kind of cheated for some weird reason.

    Finally they solve a space mystery together
    at the end she says they make a good team it’s dumb

  3. Sankin2004 says:

    Just for the record though this proves without a shadow of a doubt that the crew would and were using the holodeck for sexcapades.

  4. seattlesportsguy says:

    I always viewed it as the computer’s fault anyways. He asked for a personality to be added to the simulation and got that.

  5. Shas_Erra says:

    This whole scene made no sense to me. As a holodeck character, she should have just activated and started interacting with her physical counterpart instead of replaying one side of a cringy conversation. Unless the computer was intentionally cockblocking LaForge for fun

  6. Discount_Lex_Luthor says:

    I love Geordi and he’s a huge influence nice on who I am as a professional, but man he is SO creepy in his “romance” episodes.

  7. earthscribe says:

    The implication though was that he wasn’t having sex with the holo character. He was just starting to have feelings for her. Riker would be more the ‘pump the holly character’ and get back to duty than Geordi would.

  8. fish998 says:

    I think calling her his sex doll is grossly mischaracterising the situation, and she absolutely does jump to conclusions before getting all the facts. By the end of the episode the real Leah and Geordi have the same friendship that he had with the fake one.

  9. jandrese says:

    The crazy thing is the hologram was actually innocent, the computer made it sexually forward but Geordi never asked for that. If you want to be creeped out/mad at Geordi you should cite all of his other behavior in that episode. He hardcore creeps on Dr. Bhrams from “hello” even though she doesn’t know Geordi from Adam.

  10. zitjuice says:

    Honestly, Geordi was not a well-written character. He could be condescending, jealous, and he was also a creep. He was Data’s trusted friend, but by the end, Picard usurped that role.

  11. grandwahs says:

    1) Did Geordi originally intend to create a Holo Leah Brahms that he fell for? No

    2) Did Geordi have holo-relations with Holo Leah Brahms? No (at least I don’t think he did)

    3) Did Geordi act inappropriately around Real Leah Brahms? Yes.

    4) Did Geordi fail to disclose what happened to Real Leah Brahms? Yes.

    5) Was Geordi’s anger at Real Leah Brahms’ anger misguided and inappropriate? Yes.

  12. count023 says:

    Because it wasn’t a “holographic sex doll”, it wasn’t a tool that he created to stalk her with. It was a visual representation of the database provided by the designer that had been anthropomorphized poorly by the computer. I must have missed the part of “booby trap” where he spent precious moments between radiation poisoning banging her over the drafting room table.

    Everyone keeps calling this episode and what Geordi did incel. I’d be pretty pissed too if something innocuous and as i’ll remind people who like to bring this episode up, _wasn’t his choice_ was misconstrued as a personal attack. The computer made the AI character’s personality up, he didn’t say, “Make this chick want me in every way possible”, and he didn’t exactly do anything beyond be friendly with it in episode it appears. There was a hint that he could fall for her, but he actively rebuffed it in the previous episode and now.

    She accused him without context after _replaying_ the last few minutes of the video, which was the farewell speech the AI version of her gave him after they saved the ship, when they were bonding as peers, not when she was about to rip her holoclothes off and bang him.

  13. Willravel says:

    I was maybe in kindergarten or first grade I watched “Hollow Pursuits” with my family, showing a holographic representation of Counselor Deanna Troi as a sex doll. As an adult, I’m imagining how I’d feel if I found out someone did that to me.

    How in the name of Kahless is is possible to holographically generate another real, living person’s likeness without explicit consent for sexual purposes on a holodeck? Even just full-on flirtation and “fire your antimatter into my intermix chamber”-eyes is way beyond inappropriate for a holographic representation of a real person. It’s clearly deeply unethical, it’s sexual harassment, and it’s creepy.

    It feels like we need a PSA: please, don’t phuck photons that look like phriends.

  14. Seaberry3656 says:

    In my headcanon she apologize and pretends to be friendly with him at the end– *for her safety!*

    Fight, Flight, Freeze, or Fawn. Tell the creep he is right, you are wrong, he is a nice guy, gtfo of there

  15. spaceyjules says:

    I’ve always found it a bit off putting that apparently, the holodeck can just make up a version of living people that are attracted to you. It’s their times’ version of a pornographic deepfake. I feel like there should’ve been something that prevented this, like a safeguard in the programming or Federation regulation.
    Geordie didn’t actually have sex with her, but the fact that he didn’t do anything to stop the hologram coming onto him is so unprofessional of him.

    If someone uploaded me into an AI that can simulate romantic/sexual relationships I would be offended too. If you like someone that much, just ask them out and show that you respect them as a person by accepting a clean, simple, unambiguous “I’m flattered, but no”.

  16. azzers214 says:

    There’s no panic like a moral panic.

    I’ve always felt, 2005+ blogging culture did TNG dirty when it came to this topic. It helps to remember that while there were elements of serialization in the story, TNG was largely an anthology. That meant, if the writers weren’t asking you to question it, questioning it after the fact was a “shooting fish in a barrel” situation because there are so many aspects of their society that we are expected to taken as a given.

    Throwing out the idea it was a sex doll, since that’s not in Geordi’s episode and it’s reading the situation it most dark and rapey way, I’ve always read Brahm’s disgust but not immediately bringing down the wrath of Starfleet as at least intimating that where Geordi was operating was a grey area of that century’s morality. That is, if a computer can put together a bad copy of someone and a holodeck is easily programmable, this type of thing can’t even remotely be stopped without law, then the fact that there is no law would represent the writers intentionally or not showing us that an inanimate representation of a person or thing isn’t prohibited. We see it both with works of fiction and persons of history with it only coming into question once – the apparent agency of Moriarty.

    Could TNG have definitely tackled this topic? Sure. But the fact that Brahms and Geordi don’t, honestly demonstrate from a story perspective it’s not the moral quandry for these characters it is for perhaps the decades following the show.

  17. MrFiendish says:

    There was no sex involved. She must have allowed her personality and physical matrix to be uploaded into the ship’s computer for it to be there. It’s just weird that Geordi was trying to romance her when they first met.

  18. KryssCom says:

    This is such an astonishingly ice-cold take on these Geordi scenes, it makes Rura Penthe look like Risa.

    Fuck outta here with “sex doll.” Did you even watch the episode….?

  19. anthonykriens says:

    When I was a kid I used to not pay that much attention to the Geordi / Leah bit because the other plot was so much more interesting. Alien baby!!

    Man did this episode age hard. 😂

Leave a Reply

This site uses cookies to offer you a better browsing experience. By browsing this website, you agree to our use of cookies.